Friday, June 26, 2009

Michael Jackson

في أيام عبد الحليم الأخيرة طالته اتهامات بادعاء المرض لكسب تعاطف الجمهور ومزيد من الشعبية إلى أن قضى عليه المرض في لندن. القصة تكررت مع مايكل جاكسون الذي اتهمه البعض بالتمارض للتملص من التزامات فنية أعلن أنها فُرضت عليه، ويبدو أنه رحل عن عالمنا اليوم رحيلا مفاجئا ومحزنا يثبت مرضه، ويثبت أن أولوياتي في الحزن والتعاطف الإنساني ناقصة
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أعتذر عن عدم التفاعل مع انتخابات إيران وتداعياتها ولا مستوطنات نتنياهو ولا استجواب وزير الداخلية ولا الجنسية لأبناء اللبنانية كما يجب.. وحده مايكل جاكسون استطاع أن يحرك مياه المدونة الراكدة.. شويّة
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44 comments:

Anonymous said...

صج زعلانة على مايكل جاكسون والا زعلانة على شي ثاني ومحاربتنا؟

nanonano said...

أنا نفسج

وايــــــــــــــــــد نزل الخبر علي كالصاعقه

مع أني هاليومين مِتّمسِحَه

شوشو جيلنا كانت له ذكريات مع أغاني مايكل

ببساطه


مايكل جاكسون كان ظاهره

A.H said...

البقا براسك

ولاّدة said...

وفاته محزنة بتوقيتها وظروفها
أمتعنا في مرحلة من مراحل حياتنا كما أمتع الملايين وحقه أن نتوقف عند وفاته ونتذكر فنه وموهبته الفريدة ونرثي لظروفه الأخيرة المزرية

بمتابعتي للقنوات الفضائية وجدت أن جمهوره تجمعوا ورقصوا رقصاته في تعبير عن الأرث الذي تركه

Anonymous said...

I must strongly disagree with you here, especially since there was a comparison between Michael's death and other disturbingly inhumane circumstances occurring throughout this world.

Thousands of innocent lives are lost, in Iran and in the occupied territories. Many groups and citizens are denied their natural civil rights .. yet you proclaim that the only one who stirred your blog/emotions was Michael.

Regardless of how big a fan you are, your claim greatly marginalizes the others' suffering and undermines their hardships within the public eye.

And over whom?

Over Michael.

A man (put loosely) who's lived in wealth almost his entire life yet managed to alienate many black people by insisting to become white, and alienated most of his fans due to his disturbed and unbalanced emotional state, which led him to molest minors.

Thus, how can the lives and sufferings of the others, whom you mentioned, fail as circumstances that would leave the viewer all torn up?

Can't understand.

Anonymous said...

الله يرحمه والله يرحم فرح فاوست, ماتت بعد معاناتها بالسرطان

Shurouq said...

Anonymous.
لا، ليش أحاربكم؟ أصلا اللي يحارب يحارب الله
:P

Nanonano.
اي والله كان ظاهرة.. ويكسر الخاطر

A.H.
أحسن الله عزاءكم

ولاّدة
آنا بعد لو أعرف أرقص مثله ما تأخرت

Anonymous.
I said my emotional priorities are messed up but of course I feel strongly about other misfortunes, especially the situation in Iran.

Michael led an unstable life but his music gave us tremendous joy. And I would argue that more black people are proud of his success than alienated by his skin condition.

P.S. Don't take this blog seriously :)

Anonymous.
زعلت على فرح فوسيت بعد، بس مثل ما قلت/قلتي، كانت مريضة من فترة ومتوقعة الموت بأي لحظة

The Simper said...

he was a force that had an imapct on millions all over the world..

we like it or "some" don't like it..

we will always have "those some" trying to marginalize the emotions of people reacting with such an event, and always try to compare one emotion that is linked to the suffering of ONE individual to SITUATIONS that are controled by "prolonged systematic policies"..

i just say let people display their feelings and emotions and not try to debress them for showing such emotions!

as for the other situations, i think people would react in a different way when they go to a micro level and feel the pains of other individuals who have been persecuted by bad policies, this is the normal human reaction.

yet when we talk about the general policies, please don't mix it with an instance of grief on a human being!

L's B said...

Good Mourning,
Michael was a mythical figure, and i think his influence pervaded the last three decades.

Oh well, there goes a part of everyone's childhood. At least we still have all the records. In some ways, people like him never really die.

Jako said...

الخبر صدمة
من أمس بالليل وانا أتابع
الله يرحمه
ذكرياتي أغلبها متعلقة بأغانيه
ماراح أنساه أبد ولا راح يتكرر

:(

Mohammed said...

:(

كان ليجند لايعلى عليه .. وأجيال مروا على اغانية

من عمري 5 سنين وانا اسمعله

الله يرحم ايام فيلم "باد"

الله يرحم ايام فيلم "مون ولكر"

الله يرحم ايام فيلم "كابتن ايو" واللي كان اول فيلم ثلاثي الابعاد على وجه الارض وكان بس يعرض بدزني لاند

الله يرحم ايام الجاكسون 5

الله يرحم الرسوم المتحركه لجاكسون 5

ma6goog said...

لام الله اللي لامج

الله يرحمه

Anonymous said...

Michael was a humanitarian and a great human being.

Michael did his part in healing the world, what have you done Anonymous?

SUNRISE LOVER said...

SHOROQ..,
I REALY LIKE YOU AND LOVE .... YOUR BLOG
WE NEED YOU...
I DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A WELL THOUGHTED POST , ANYTHING FROM YOU DARLING..., THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL IN YOUR DAILY LIFE...
LOVE ....

بنت الشاميه said...

حزنت لخبر وفاته
كان يمثل مرحله من حياتي
صج موهبه نادره بهذا الزمن
وزعلت لفرح فوست....وكانت بطله بمقاومتها لمرض السرطان
ولكن هذى مشيئة الرحمن


وااااصلي الكتابه بسج كسل

Noura said...

this is so sad, I grew up listening to him and I was looking forward and waiting for his big come back! :(
He`s "gone too soon" :(

Mohamed Anwar said...

thank you -شكرا
http://24all.blogspot.com http://pc4all2all.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 1:33 & Simper,

What's the matter? Can't take a little criticism? If this is how you react to disagreeing opinions, then you have a problem, my friends.

However, if your comments were based more on standing up for Shurooq than disagreeing with me then I cannot really argue there but rather applaud your defense since Shurooq is and will always be indescribably special.

Indescribably.

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I stand my ground, however, on Michael; he might have been a great musician but a humanitarian he was not. Either way, may he rest in peace.

Anonymous said...

Simper, since you provide a more valid argument in regards to a single human's death and the grief that unfortunately follows, I tell you this.

If it were any other public figure, with minor faults like we all have, I would have let it go. But Jackson's life demonstrates how fame and fortune supersede justice taking place.

Upon being accused, over and over, of sexually abusing children, Jackson, under the blessing of the law, was able to walk away rather than be prosecuted like any maggot who abuses innocent children, which shows that many - unfortunately - may be placed above and beyond the law, which I detest.

But hey, why bring up the stories of those child victims when they're nothing but a mere shadow next to a great icon, whose songs appear to have earned him forgiveness for what he's done?

This is what marginalizing does; it justifies criminal behavior rather than attain justice for all.

Shaikha said...

I am surprised to find myself more compassionate than most people here on the blogs.

Seriously; doesn't the conclusion of one's life - the details of which have been unfolding jedam 3yunkom day by day all these years - move you?

It IS sad. Not because I will miss the mourned, but because I know I will be in this position and my life will be concluded some day. Michael Jackson led an excellent example of a life full of independent decisions (right and wrong) ending at one extreme of the scale of happiness-sadness.

What makes everybody else so sure they wouldn't make mistakes similar to the ones he did and end their lives on that level?
Nothing is more stupid than being stupid and not acknowledging it.

No jokes and no wishes for him to go to hell can make sense to me. Madre menu ya7sebun nafes'hom your commentators, Shurouq.
Oh wait, I think I have an idea: ma3sumein men al khata', that's who they think they are; soo high and too high to be in MJ's position.

I never knew mentalities can be this disgusting. I wish I never knew too

Anonymous said...

Shaikha,

You're right on this incident being a sad one; every human life is precious and its death deserves dignity no matter how you feel about the person.

However, you must show the same amount of sadness upon the abuse of other people as well, especially if they are children. Being famous should not absolve you from responsibility, as it did in Michael's case.

We all have our faults but we are not above the law, which is my main point.

I take this matter seriously since I have always been partial to whom I perceive as the weak, women and children in particular.

Take, for example, the case of performer Chris Brown who recently physically assaulted his girlfriend Rihanna, leaving her face a bloody mess.

Personally, I think that his actions are irredeemable and if he were to drop dead tomorrow, my partialness to women would supersede my status as a fan (ex-fan) since images of his beat up girlfriend's face is a constant reminder of many women who get physically and emotionally abused by men.

These two icons have never received their proper punishment; Jackson went free and Brown was slapped with a fine and a short-time parole.

The example they set - as public figures - is devastating since it advocates criminal behavior against the weak and the defenseless. Many young men are more likely to use and abuse women if their role models (rappers, public figures) are justified in their aggression towards women and children.

Despite my disagreement, this post was a great one; it allows one to view how disgusting it is for some not to be looking at the larger picture, and for many others to allow fame and glamor to blind them from being objective and just.

Nina said...

الله يرحمه ويرحمنه جميع ، جارنا السوري يكول مايكل جاكسون اتحدى الخالق عزوجل وكدر يغير خلقته مثل مايريد هو مو مثل ماخلقه رب العالمين

Mohammed alhassan said...

مايكل جاكسن المغني اللي بديت أسمعه لمن كان عمري 3 أو 4 سنين من ثرلر ومازلت أسمعه خبر وفاته كان :( sad so sad to hear

بو ناصر said...

ترا الصورة اللي حطيتيها عوّرت قلبي وايد وايد....

الله يرحمه

ضيقتي خلقي

هذا الإنسان الرائع اللي ربينا ويّاه كأنه واحد منّا في البيت

عظمة

رفاد said...

Nina

جارج ينرادله تربية في الاخلاق و احترام البشر و الطبيعة البشرية و الانسانية، و خلي حقده و كراهيته للخلق تآكله من الداخل. اعتقاداته الدينية معقدته بنفسه و بحياته و يريد يفسرها باغلاط غيره

Anonymous said...

Shurooq,

I have only replied to others' comments since there was plenty of ground for rebuttal.

Haven't replied to yours, though, since only you provided a simple but solid comment.

"Don't take this blog seriously." she says, lol. Point taken, and I won't from now on.

Your comment put me in my place, made me feel like a damn kid. Kudos to the fairy Godmother :-)

Shurouq said...

The Simper.
And the dancing moves.. Oh my god the dancing. :)
He'll be missed.

L's Brain.
Exactly. There goes a part of our childhood.

Jako.
أحلى شي في الأغاني إنها ما تخلص ونقدر نسمعها متى ما نبي

Mohammed.
آنا ما كنت أحبه وآنا صغيرة.. بس كبرت وعقلت :)

Ma6goog.
آمين

Sunrise Lover.
You're too sweet :*

بنت الشامية.
انشالله.. لا تزفين :)

Noura.
I'd love to hear his unreleased material.

Shaikha.
People are moved, only in different directions :) And for that I am thankful.

Nina.
إيمان جارك غريب إذا عنده تحدي الله بهالسهولة

Mohammed Al Hassan.
مع إنه أغاني مايكل حدها رادو :P

بو ناصر.
ما قصدت أضيق خلقك

Anonymous.
Hehe didn't mean to!

Opinionated commentators are the best :) And it's time you got yourself a name, familiar anonymous.

Alikingkw said...

الله يرحمة
فقدنا أعظم شخصية معاصرة

t.q8 said...

شروق اذا ماحطيتي بوست جديد
راح نستجوبج :×

اجار الدين كشمش said...

, والله ما حرك صرصوووخ اذني

فمالله

Anonymous said...

i guess that anonymous = mowgli


:)

Anonymous said...

http://www.blogger.com/profile/11580588199438208638

thats him


:P
sa7 ?

S3ood said...

kil min kan iya3ib 3alai laman ti6la3 aghanyah on my ipod in my car.

al7een everyone loves him again, hypocrites.

Pangion said...

زعلت عليه وايد للذكريات الحلوة المرتبطة بأغانيه ..الطفولة وفترة المراهقة وبعدها

ماراح يتكرر

AEP said...

"But hey, why bring up the stories of those child victims when they're nothing but a mere shadow next to a great icon, whose songs appear to have earned him forgiveness for what he's done?

This is what marginalizing does; it justifies criminal behavior rather than attain justice for all."

Newton was an asshole.
Beethoven would hit people if they ask him to repeat himself.
Al-Mutanabi was the father of all narcists.
The list goes on...

I'm not trying to compare Jackson with these individuals, but trying to make the point that Jackson is an 'idea'. Humans are like this and we can't help it. This is especially true in regards to artists. We have an ability to somehow assume the artist's character from their work. When you think about it this way, mourning MJ's death is quite a beautiful sort of mourning. People are mourning his art. It has nothing to do with justice or marginalization, but love of music and art.

For this reason, comparing his death with the death of Iranians is quite unfair. Apples and Oranges. They are two separate sorrows.

abolesanzalef said...

السلام عليكم
كنت اتفقد بعض المدونات ووللحظ تقابلت ومدونتك وتصادمت مع موضوعك عن الاخ الزميل مايكل جاكسون....
اجد بعض الردود قاتلو مميتة و مضحكة...!!!هل هذه الردود صحيحة ام انها مفتعلة من اجل حرق اعصابنا اكثر و اكثر....صح زعلانة؟؟؟؟نزل الخبر علي كالصاعقة؟؟؟؟وفاته محزنة بتوقيتها وظروفها؟؟؟؟؟الله يرحمه والله يرحم فرح فاوست؟؟؟؟؟؟أحسن الله عزاءكم
؟؟؟؟؟؟الخبر صدمة؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟كان ليجند لايعلى عليه كان ليجند لايعلى عليه؟؟؟؟حزنت لخبر وفاته؟؟؟؟؟this is so sad, I grew up listening to him ؟؟؟؟

-ليس عندي تعليق اخر غير.....!!!

Anonymous said...

A&P

You're a bit late, debate's over, but what the heck, I gotta minute.

Of all people, I appreciate artists and poets the most for their creativity, sensitivity, and the empathy they induce in people.

Jackson was a different case since his crime was different in nature. You cannot compare Newton & Beethoven to him. I'll take a narcissistic asshole over a child molester any day of the week. Some crimes are unforgettable, and unforgivable if they go unpunished.

I work at a women's center that deals with providing help for troubled women. Been through cases where women told me stories about how their men battered them. But I couldn't handle it when some brought in their sexually abused children, I walked out.

There is nothing as ugly as sexually molesting children. So give me a fucking break for speaking up for abused kids everywhere pal, and go cry me a river about Michael somewhere else.

The Dagger said...

Anonymous immediately above me,

I love you! I am in Washington, DC on a business trip, and I am getting sick and tired of Michael Jackson and his "tragic death" story on every TV/Radio station. Only 2 of my co-workers agree with me that he was a pedophile. I was so pleased to read your comments, and responses. Drop a line to my e-mail; you seem to be a very smart person. Here is a funny article from the Independent of London. Cheers!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-the-macabre-details-of-michael-jacksons-death-1726054.html

PS. Shurouq, how are you doing, dear? Hope all is well.

Shurouq said...

abolesanzalef
اي والله زعلت عليه.. وبعدي زعلانة

The Dagger
Are we allowed to read that Independent link, or is it only for "Smart" people? :P

I'm good. How have you been? Long time.

The Dagger said...

Shurouq,

I'll take that as a rhetorical question because you are one of the smartest people!
Not much is going on this side of the ocean; what's new in Kuwait besides Majlis Al-Ummah, and the Barak-Khrafi saga?!

Shurouq said...

They lowered the height requirement for women police so maybe now I have a chance.

You're not missing much.

The Dagger said...

Wow! Now, that's an achievement. You are a smart woman, so leave the police for stupid men! I know will be set on fire for saying that (especially by my older brother who is a Lt. Col. in the police), but I stand by what I said. Cheers!

AEP said...

Hey Anonymous,

Just a point to clarify that you have may have missed. I neither care about MJ's death, nor do I think child abuse is in anyway OK. But I was surprised by the negative sentiments towards Shurouq and other so I was merely trying to *explain* the phenomenon of people feeling bad about his death rather than justifying his personality. Why should we mourn him? (the question you are answering) is totally different than Why are we mourning him? (the question I tried to answer). Your normative argument about why we should or should not mourn him makes perfect sense but again my argument is not concerned with MJ himself and what is morally appropriate, but the phenomenon of how and why people mourn him and other artists.

Cheers!

PS: We should create our own little debate club! Haha

Anonymous said...

Dagger, thanks.

A&P, no thanks.